So where is the quote then locke? If you're so sure that he said it where is your audio file? If he did say it than you all have a point, but if you're going to be a reporter of anything you shouldn't quote someone without a source. Either way, all of this is a little ridiculous. It's just a game! And looking at it from a purely academic standpoint Riley made the right decision. BYU offers a much better academic education than Utah State (BYU is rated higher than USU on virtually every index that ranks overall undergraduate education, so unless he was planning to study agriculture, he's in good shape).

You show your bias in the first line of your blog by stating that Jay Drew is untarnished and not mentioning the same about Dick Harmon. Is there something we should know? You are a radio guy who has never minced words before. Time to throw Harmon under the bus or give him the same props as Jay Drew.

The quote, "While, he has covered every event imaginable the idea that he has heard everything Bronco has said is ludicrous".

From reading Harmon's stuff, I don't think that he was saying that he knows everything and is the ultimate source, but rather he was surprised by the uproar because Bronco's so called quote is not in the public domain.

Other than the listing for Drew up above, I still have not heard of a similar quote in the public domain. And if Jay Drew heard such a quote, why didn't he publish it at that time?

Jason thanks for your thoughts.
Golfer - are you kidding. A bias. I tried to say that these are "two very good reporters" there is no bias. I like both personally and professionally. I am not saying that Dick said he has heard everything. I am saying the idea that he has heard everything is ludicrous.

I found a Bronco quote, perhaps the one everyone's all a twitter over:

"Mendenhall stressed that his program is careful in the way it deals with missionaries.

"As they came to us, they came of their own regard," he said. "We will not recruit players while they're on their missions. That's not our policy. But when they do contact us, we'll certainly listen."

That's from a Deseret News story written by Jeff Call in February 2006.

In the column you reference, Drew also wrote this:

"BYU receivers coach Patrick Higgins and Nelson's high school coach, Mike Favero, were chatting a few months ago and Favero apparently mentioned that Nelson might have some interest in transferring and Higgins mentioned that BYU might be open to taking Nelson."

This would indicate that it was Logan's coach that brought it up to the BYU coach, who then said BYU would have interest in Nelson.

Which isn't how you've been portraying it on your radio show.

However, in a follow up column, Drew interviewed the Logan coach and didn't get much out of him:

"I asked the question a lot of people have asked me since the story broke on Memorial Day. Did BYU initiate the contact with Riley, or did Riley's family contact BYU?

"I'm not sure," Favero said.

I told him that Riley's father, Keith, has said in various interviews that Favero told the family of BYU's interest a few months ago after Favero talked with BYU receivers coach Patrick Higgins, who recruits the area for the Cougars. Is Mr. Nelson's account accurate?

"Sure, you bet," he said.

So did the BYU coach bring up Nelson first, or did Favero mention him first?

"I don't even remember," he said. "A number of people have asked about Riley."

So not a ringing endorsement of the earlier story claiming it was Favero that brought it up first. But clearly not proof of hypocrisy on anyone's part. There's just no smoking gun here.

And this is the key to your claim. You used Jay Drew's column to say that Bronco promised not to recruit players from other teams who were currently on missions. But the real point is that Drew also wrote that it wasn't BYU that initiated the contact, and the Dick Harmon column notes how dumb it is to expect Bronco to be silent when a prospective player contacts him.

So until there's proof that BYU actively sought out Riley in order to steal him away from USU, it seems really premature to call out BYU's coaches and fans as hypocrites.

How's that for fact and logic? :-)

A couple of things. First, I found it humorous how you praised Jay Drew and latched on to what he wrote because it supported your criticism of Bronco and BYU. You then turn around and either ignorantly or purposefully misrepresent what Dick Harmon said. He didn't say he "covered every event imaginable." Where's your journalistic integrity? The things you said in your blog are just . . . oh, what's the word you like to use . . . dirty! That's it. You are just dirty.

Second, you spent about an hour yesterday afternoon ridiculing and degrading most of your listeners based on the spelling and grammar they used in their emails to you. I had to laugh at that, because I couldn't believe someone would be fool enough or arrogant enough to do that to his customers. Then I find your blog, posted by someone on Cougarblue.com, and I find myself laughing even harder as I see the poor writing and punctuation in your blog.

I quote you: "While, he has covered every event imaginable the idea that he has heard everything Bronco has said is ludicrous."

Gee, don't you know how to place commas? LOL! Not only is that a misrepresentation of what Harmon said, it's exactly the kind of thing you were mocking your listeners for yesterday. It's a bit childish, isn't it?

Oh, and before you go on about how you weren't being rude to your listeners, that you were really just pointing out how fans see what they want to see . . . no one's buying it. You sound like a fool saying that kind of stuff. Just admit it, you were trying to be a jerk to your listeners without getting called on it. Well, you succeeded in the first part. Have a nice day.

Cameron good work.
MRaven - you are dead write on my brutal grammar and spelling. The write is a joke.
Also I am not talking about Harmon I am talking about the fans who are saying that if Harmon didn't hear it, then it didn't happen. It was not a comment on Harmon.

I listen to your opinions on many subjects. I agree with most I would guess. Since I drive around in sales all day I listen to much of what we have in sports radio in this market.

On this one I was surprised how you seem to relish in calling out BYU and Bronco in particular. How you and your co host were actually (in my opinion) abusive to listeners that were trying to express an opposing view. Stating that Bronco said "he would never" do what you said he said he wouldn't do. About how dirty this was.

You sounded like you were obessed with painting BYU and Bronco as worse than anyone else in all of College recruiting.

Odd thing is, you usually have your facts right. If you are so right, come up with and verify the quote. Seems no one has it as you stated, and honestly I would be surprised if Bronco would say anything as you portrayed it.

Hey Mraven -- before you go ripping me too much. I can read to .
Who wrote this ..
Thus we have Bronco Mendenhall seeming to be two faced. Now, don't get me wrong. I love that Bronco did this. I think he should openly (and slyly) recruit every quality player who is on a mission. It's legal and it's smart. The problem I am having is that I have no counter-argument to David Locke, Kevin Graham, etc., etc., who say that Bronco is disingenuous."

That would have been you.

The real point is that there is no proof yet that BYU recruited Riley. All we know so far is that Riley's high school coach mentioned to a BYU recruiter that Riley had interest in transferring, and would BYU have interest in Riley? That's not recruiting. Nothing nefarious was done here.

That's a classic, Locke. Thanks for confirming your lack of integrity. First, you take one paragraph from one of the 10 posts I made in that string and ignore everything else. Talk about taking something out of context. For the record, if you read my posts (and don't take anything out of context) you will see I was actually playing devil's advocate by making your argument to the BYU posters. I was trying to see if anyone had a counter-argument.

Second, I assumed that your entire argument over the past few days was based on something Bronco actually said. Low and behold, we find out there is no evidence to support your argument. Neither you nor anybody else has been able to come up with the documented statement by Bronco that you have based your whole argument on. If I had known that before I made that post on Cougarblue I wouldn't have ever started that thread. I assumed a basic level of competence and integrity. I will certainly not make that assumption again.

You might not want to make BYU fans too angry, many of them listen to your show. Just sayin

Yeah, I made a comment on the spelling and grammar on a post that Bagley made back on April 3, and here's a shock: My comments were never posted, acknowledged, or replied to, either publicly or privately. And the post was never corrected even when it was pointed out. And now you think it's okay to berate your listeners? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As for the Riley thing, get back to us if and when the damaging quote is ever found.

Here is the article where Mendenahall shows his hypocrisy. Looks like Harmon needs some help with his investigative techniques. I'm not a BYU hater, but I think people need to take off the Cougar Blue goggles before you comment on this issue.

From the Deseret Morning News, February 2, 2006, by Jeff Call

"Mendenhall stressed that his program is careful in the way it deals with missionaries.

"'As they came to us, they came of their own regard,' he said. 'We will not recruit players while they're on their missions. That's not our policy. But when they do contact us, we'll certainly listen.'